Remember the "Pagan Babies"? Thanks for your input . (And I pitched them when I went to college) I had one round flat plastic silhouette of Mary that glowed after you held it under a lamp for a bit. . Im sure we had to change it to Richard, but in our hearts he was our little Ringo. How great ! Im pretty sure it was the heavy sell on Pagan Babies and the strong emphasis on the fact that God doesnt like Protestants that caused me to first question the rigid authority of the Catholic Church. Here is Sister Mary Michael Archangel giving medicine to the pagans . I vividly remember the certificate you have posted, with the various nationalities represented. Thanks for the comment . Every month after the money was collected, a students name was randomlypicked out of a bag with the chosen name becoming the Pagan Baby of the Month. Certificates were horizontally displayed above the green & yellow cursive writing examples atop the blackborads. We'd all suggest names, and then vote for the one we liked best. every cent counts and just know the things we take for granted and have, these amazing . He didnt mention that 60% of the profits went to the promotion company . . I also had a more personal reason for hitting the $5 markthe point at which you actually saved a baby and got naming rights. Daley, who adopted "Michael" on February 24, 1959. Glad that I could kick up some dust . We too raised $$ for pagan babies. We all worked hard to buy four boy pagan babies so we could name them John, Paul, George, and Ringo. Every month after the money was collected, a students name was "randomly"picked out of a bag with the chosen name becoming the "Pagan Baby of the Month.". Like using Necco wafers to practice First Holy Communion. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. Yeah . Saving pagan babies occurred during a simpler time, before cynicism and political correctness found their stride. Its a great way to perform works of mercy or give alms during Lent or find a family charity. Remember JMJ ? "Baptism . Great mix of early US HC punk & the then emerging "Youth Crew" sound. At times, it seemed like the nuns in the Catholic School I was attending, would really pressure the students to contribute to the pagan babies. Then Father Small asked for a second show of hands. At the end of the semester, the class that had accumulated the most donations was awarded a prize. One guys said one time he was examining his conscience and realized he had tried to act like an adult, so he confessed to his priest that he committed adultery!!! Ive been fortunate to travel to various parts of the world and to admire (our missionaries) extraordinary love of the world and of the people with whom they live, the cardinal added. You know the drill . We gave our allowances to save those babies. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Legion. Sometimes, I was that girl. probably denoting how much money was collected. I also attended CCS and talk about the pagan babies all the time and the Lenten booklets where you saved dimes. I remember doing the rice bowl thing during Lent, but I dont remember it being for the pagan babies. You :-)) We sort of ran the name together so it came out pegginbebbies. I used to contribute nickels and dimes (along with my other and less devout classmates) so together as a class we got to choose the pegginbebbies name from a list of nominees. No one was, in fact, adopted or bought. The mission has a Church, Cardinal Dolan reminded his guests in his opening remarks. For those dying without baptism, however, the Catholic Church teaches us to hope in God. I am not the age youre looking for, though, because I am > 50. The teacher lobbied for her but I still refused . Do Black Patent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up? It cost $5.00. Come back 60 years ago and well ask the teacher for one ; but now , I dont know . He told how we had to examine our consciences.
At first, Sister tried to dissuade me from using Karen, as this was not a name on the published roster of saints. I think there was some small prize involved for any student that sold them. There have to be plenty of them around somewhere . And finally they finished . The nuns tried to keep us on the Catholic path, but they had a lot of competition with of the civil rights movements of the time. The bookstore is receiving pro bono legal services from ADF for the lawsuit. Shed be about 70 now! Charlie Bloomquist , of course , had a question . I went to Catholic school in the 50s and 60s too, but in Chicago. is the gateway to life in the Spirit, and the door which gives access to the other
I still suspect the money collected ( probably in actuality just chicken-feed ? ) those babies. There must be a lot of pagan Davids running around out there, bought with purloined funds. Reminiscing about St. Amelias brings back many other memories. Despite its apparent condescending tone at times, it instilled a radical sense of urgency in children that we are responsible for one another.. In addition we'd go and bless our herbs in the garden and around on Midsummer and then harvest them for John's night or the night before depending on the weather. Elementary
When we got five dollars the children would pick a name for the pagan baby, send the five dollars to the priest at the mission who would snatch the baby from an eternity of suffering and baptize it with the name we sent along. Two stories I recall from those days: one boy in my room kept bringing in UNBELIEVABLY large amounts every day (. sacraments. This is hilarious, love this! between boys and girls. Never heard the term. You mean to tell me , he began , that we are supposed to sell a candy bar for a dollar that we could buy in the store for fifty cents "Me too! They folded out . Your email address will not be published. Regardless of whether pagan babies have become personal, we should still pray for and support the spread of the Catholic faith in foreign lands and in our own. In Common Good Constitutionalism, Adrian Vermeule argues with straw men and cites blog posts. I have my doubts that any of ours got past downtown L.A. Needless to say, Zachary stuck. I still have the ransom certificate to prove it. The early pagan catches the change . I suspect nowhere . Oh those Catholics had some great fund raising ideas. Im sure thats where the money went. Margaret Ann is a good respectable name . on a regular basis. That $5.00 bought you naming rights. and Holy Hacks: Everyday Ways to Live Your Faith & Get to Heaven. Pretty danged patronizing, offensive concept it was, too. I found a bunch of them in my moms cedar chest she saved all of them! I am a recovering catholic now but am thrilled with the new Pope (too bad the old one is living in the apartment w/ is BF) he is a nasty old creep and was (or is) the sole channel for abuse victims. In A.D. 381, the early Church Fathers wrote in the Nicene Creed, "We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.". , Those madcap Catholics. One of my fellow employees is reading a book called Pagan Babies. And of course, there was competition between the classrooms. Those who would like to know what became of their pagan babies will soon get a chance to find out when Pontifical Mission Societies formally launches its Great Works Campaign in the coming months. But Im a bit cynical . the salesman said . Youre too late. monetization of National Catholic Register RSS feeds is strictly prohibited. Named mine Margaret Ann. It sure wouldnt work on the savvy kids of today. The principal was standing nearby wondering if he should intervene . Remember what he said? Please log in to comment by clicking here, Darkness, Desolation Invite People to Draw Closer to God, Pope Says, El Arzobispo de San Juan Celebra la Misa de Nuestra Seora de la Divina Providencia, Powered by Creative Circle Media Solutions. Right, but there must be some type of guidelines that must be met for that to happen. I think you had to be in Catholic school around 1960 or earlier to have been exposed to the term pagan babies. Id forgotten that the rest of it was to ransom them. I suspect that Patricia never named them after you , David . That means that many of our grandbabies are pagan babies! "I remember those." They were befuddled . Theres the priority. I also remember something about a bridge
Just saw this very entertaining thread. Catholic Dopers >age 50- does the term "pagan babies" ring a bell? They spoke for an hour and I think that every sentence they uttered had the word pagan in it . Thanks for commenting. Two stories I recall from those days: one boy in my room kept bringing in UNBELIEVABLY large amounts every day (.75 here, $1.16 there). Not a word of a lie, early 70s, my sister had just gotten her photo of her wee black baby and was in my grannys house showing her it, one of my uncles looks at it, laughs, disappears upstairs and about half an hour later comes down with his scraps box, complete with several pictures of his black babies as collected when he was at school in the 50s, and there, in his pile, was the same baby (albeit in higher quality and printed on better paper). We can smile at it now at perhaps how silly it was, Father Small said. You didnt buy one with the $5.00. Technically, Jews could not be pagan, because they believe in the same monotheistic god Catholics do/did. decided it was no longer a good way to raise money for Catholic missions. That bring back memories!" With missionary nuns and pagan babies for starters. Its to raise money for the school , the salesman countered . Maybe they had sales during the year at times. Thank God someone sent this information to me and redeemed my sanity. To some of us Catholic school old-timers , pagan babies is a secret code , I guess, that gets us entry into some somewhat sardonic memories . Christians have always believed that baptism is the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. I feel the same way as you do. I remember collecting for Pagan Babies in my Catholic elementary school (I went to public high schoolwith the publics). Hopefully its from the old days. Happy Fathers Day! ago. Im sure that Beverley Anne is fine and doing well . I remember the rice bowls but no actual rice. I thought they would all come in a box and be distributed at the end of the school year. Campbell, now retired from the film industry where he worked as a technician, told Catholic New York, the archdiocesan newspaper, that hed been enrolled in the Holy Childhood Association since seventh grade and that he remembered adopting babies to get them baptized into the faith. I think most of them were in Africa and India. Great sounding rare live tape here by Philadelphia's own PAGAN BABIES from mid 1988.
When I was in grade school prior to ~1961 in Catholic school, we collected money (our little pittances of coins) for some vague, needy group covered by the catch-all term pagan babies.* Were collecting money for the pagan babies?* As I recall, there were little paper boxes that we saved our coins in and then turned them in to someone periodically. Band Name!! I dont think he really believed me. This is a serious problem. Chapter 1: Catholic Kids Make Great Faces members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission
Five bucks sure went far in 1958! I went to Marymount Jr. School in the 60s too. 2000 Elmore Leonard, Inc. (P)2000 Recorded Books Inc. Unabridged Audiobook. But the "pagan babies" were actual children being looked after by missionary sisters, brothers and priests in their countries. But, in fact, the entire program was rooted in a sense of solidarity and charity in the broadest understanding of the word. It was probably a good lesson in giving for us little ones ; but , the money - probably not a huge sum overall - ? When Oblate Father Andrew Small asked who remembered them at the inaugural World Mission Dinner in New York, a few hands went up, mostly belonging to people with gray hair. Oh , well . Pagan Babies is classic crime fiction from the master of suspense, New York Times bestselling author Elmore Leonard. Lord, LordCatholic schools. When I attended Corpus Christi Catholic School in the 1950s and 1960s there was a program we all called Pagan Babies . Pagan Babies: and Other Catholic Memories. JMJwow, totally forgot about that. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. Im 50, and though Ive heard the term pagan babies (mainly in books by people a little older than me) , it wasnt used when I was in Catholic school from about 1969-77. When our family moved to another part of Dearborn, we transferred to St Alphonsus parish, and I traded the blue jumper for a plaid one, and the beanie for Hush Puppy shoes. Sure would love to hear from anyone that remembers. Pagan Babies was a missionary effort by definition it took place in other countries where the Catholic Church was trying to make inroads. Father Andrew Small, O.M.I., national director of the Pontifical Mission Societies and host of the evening, welcomes the archbishop. And once, the guy who considered himself the smartest kid in the class proposed the name Jean-Pierre. collections to save unbaptized children not taught about God (Pagan Babies). Each in his or her own way has been a missionary of the Gospel of Christ. Keep writingthis is good stuff! Despite its apparent condescending tone at times, it instilled a radical sense of urgency in children that we are responsible for one another.. Any questions ? I think that the white kid had flowers in his hand and maybe a halo on his head. It seems hard to believe, but according to the National
"Wow, what a blast from the past!" There was excitement in the air . We thought up the stupidest , weirdest names we could manage and , as I remember, the teacher wrote that name on the box with the five dollars and it went off to the pagans . by reneeqyancy | Feb 9, 2010 | Blog | 8 comments. Jump forward to 1980 . Pagan Babies | Commonweal Magazine Pagan Babies By Linda A. McMillin March 12, 2012 I am a Catholic of a certain age, a graduate of parochial school, and a former member of the Association of the Holy Childhood. When you get to heaven have it in your pocket . We had Dominican Nuns. And in pagan lands, there are pagan babies. His parents cant now change the little pagans name , right ? As a young girl at St. Albert the Great School in Dearborn, Michigan, we wore blue uniform jumpers and beanies. I taught in Catholic schools in the 1970s and pagan babies were a thing of the past ( as far as I know ; but never underestimate the nuns ). A different time ; a different place . 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